Coleman Scott

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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by JAD77 » Mon May 20, 2024 10:36 am

FloridaGuy wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 9:48 pm >>>>>>>>>Reply to MH:
As for overall funding——-Prioritize spending to attract/retain elite wrestlers rather than post grads via LVWC.
You've made that point ad nauseam. They are two separate buckets of $$.


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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by Oracle » Mon May 20, 2024 10:49 am

Come on now JAD, Captain Obvious may think there's still *one* person out there who hasn't been enlightened! :D

"Prioritize spending to attract/retain elite wrestlers" --- as if the staff isn't doing this now.

BTW, FL Guy isn't wrong with his over-all point.
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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by 1/2NELSON » Mon May 20, 2024 11:11 am

Mountain Hawk wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 3:05 pm
Oracle wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 10:23 am So now we’re not only thinking (unrealistically) about signing guys like Alirez simply because he hits the portal — we’re extending that to out of work assistant coaches? Yeah, that’s bizarre.

Coleman Scott left a terrible recruiting class when he left Carolina. Only Koll Magic has turned lemons into lemonade.

IMO
this board starting to read like that National Enquirer.
National Enquirer? :roll: ...MH hits it outta the f'in park! :o :lol:
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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by HFO » Mon May 20, 2024 3:01 pm

Oracle wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 10:23 am So now we’re not only thinking (unrealistically) about signing guys like Alirez simply because he hits the portal — we’re extending that to out of work assistant coaches? Yeah, that’s bizarre.

Coleman Scott left a terrible recruiting class when he left Carolina. Only Koll Magic has turned lemons into lemonade.

IMO
Explain why 'Alirez is unrealistic? He is a college grad. Needs a place that also has freestyle club at elite level. He likely would also have NYAC opportunity for funding also. Somebody is going to sign Alirez, it might as well be Lehigh.

Coleman Scott is Pennsylvania. He will find a home and would be a great addition to the coaching staff at LVWC if there is funding for additional coaches that could even land him.

LVWC did not have a good cycle for either US National Team or US Olympic Qualifier it needs to be upgraded with coaching talent and athletic talent. Luckily Cruz qualified for Puerto Rico.

Excuses are no longer acceptable within Lehigh, either the institution and the wrestling program get back to where they once were in the national lexicon or we just stay average. You have to go after these 5th year guys who are AA when they are available or you will be watching life the end of the pack like the 33rd car in the Indy 500.
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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by Oracle » Mon May 20, 2024 8:23 pm

Explain why? Recent history.
All the AA grad students have signed with Power teams: NIL, NCAA $6000 Stipends, better quality work out partners, tougher conferences. Lehigh has exactly 1 AA transfer (not grad student) in Michael Beard because Cael recruited over him to get Dean.
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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by FloridaGuy » Mon May 20, 2024 9:02 pm

>>>>>Attracting one year grad wrestlers is, imo, secondary to bringing in transfers like Beard and Rogers—— guys that can help the team for multiple years.

With respect to LVWC wrestler performance—————I’m significantly more interested in the success of Lehigh University wrestlers. A ‘good cycle’ for LVWC ,imo, would be Lehigh producing more NCAA champs and AAs.
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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by Oracle » Mon May 20, 2024 9:54 pm

Fl Guy: agree with both of your points. 😎
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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by LUEngineer » Mon May 20, 2024 10:08 pm

Agree 100% with Florida Guy as well.
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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by Oracle » Tue May 21, 2024 9:00 am

While what Fl Guy posted may be true, it is not a strategy that is sustainable. Beard and Rogers were rarities. Nothing takes the place of solid initial recruiting. FL Guy has posted that as well in the past. His point is don’t ignore that in favor of some artificial cycle with the LVWC. Couldn’t agree more.

Also not saying the LVWC doesn’t have real value. It does. But it’s a support mechanism for the team.
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Re: Coleman Scott

Post by mookie » Tue May 21, 2024 1:37 pm

Andrew Alirez is staying put.
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