Recruits-2023

Talk about the champions, or the Top 25 nationally-ranked team!
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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by whiz wit » Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:51 pm

drd5748 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:02 am Not one A/A listed ever won a HS state title
But you didn't answer my question. Fact is, my post addressed the matter of the competitiveness of the team. Had nothing to do with individual resumes v accomplishments.


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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by Oracle » Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:51 pm

Gregory S. Surenian was Armenian. The 'S' stands for Suren, which was his nickname.

Dropped out after beating Tom Sculley in wrestle-off for 134 in fall of 1971 (his junior year and Sculley's soph year) -- he didn't want to cut back to 126. Not made public, byt I always suspected Thad had other ideas and Suren thought it best to move on.

He ended up at Boston University where he majored in Theater Arts -- wanted to be a director. Saw The Godfather together in 1972 in Brockton, MA.

TMI?
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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by drd5748 » Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:36 pm

post by whiz wit » Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:51 But you didn't answer my question. My post addressed the matter of team competiveness. Had nothing to do with individual resumes v accomplishments.

Below is what you first posted – and it DID refer to recruiting in a thread called RECRUITING
It replied to 2 posters lamenting lack of state champs
My post proved that non-state champs can win BIG in Div I if given the chance
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Post by whiz wit » Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:07 pm
We can't expect it. Can't compete with the big boys or even the upper medium size boys in recruiting. Will be a second tier (11-20) team unless there's a major positive change.
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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by HFO » Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:26 am

drd5748 wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 11:02 am Not one A/A listed ever won a HS state title
Noted. Coach Leeman, Turner, Strobel could develop wrestlers. I concur. PA, CA, NJ, MN, IA, OK 3rd/4th should not be overlooked. They might need 2-3 years of development. Prep school. Military for 2 years. Backup at college level for 2 years. Not all 16-19 year old physically develop at the same rate. Then throw in the mental part.
The same was true for surgical residents. Some were not so great their first year, but by 4th year, many surpassed those who you thought were elites in year 1.

PIAA District 11 3rd Placers have been quite impressive.
Jordan Burroughs won NJ as a senior.
Burroughs freshman year at Nebraska was 16 wins and 13 losses. Two years later an NCAA Champion.
Did OK after college.

Our own Darryl Burley did not hit the top of the podium until his senior year in NJ. The explodes as true freshman at Lehigh.

Yes it would be nice to land the Kyle Dake and Spencer Lee and list goes on. We landed David Craig. He had a solid career. You just never know.

If Pat continues to land, PA, NJ, OH 1st-4ths and 1st/2nd from other states, I am sure he will find a few All Americans.

This team is very good this year. Our guys will move up the rankings once there starts to be more wrestling.
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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by mh1 » Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:42 am

PA season is underway and 4 champs were crowned.

Repos (145) @ Solanco Mule Classic
Sadriddinov (160) @ Cumberland Valley Kickoff Classic
Dubler (172) @ Inter County Conference Tournament
Gonzalez (160) @ Lebanon County Tournament

I think NJ starts in 2 weeks?
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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by D3 for LU » Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:06 pm

mh1 wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:42 am PA season is underway and 4 champs were crowned.

Repos (145) @ Solanco Mule Classic
Sadriddinov (160) @ Cumberland Valley Kickoff Classic
Dubler (172) @ Inter County Conference Tournament
Gonzalez (160) @ Lebanon County Tournament

I think NJ starts in 2 weeks?
That would be a big, fat, YES.
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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by whiz wit » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:44 pm

The name "Dubler" calls to mind Conrad Dobler, "The Dirtiest Player in the NFL". Remember him?
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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by Spladle1989 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:04 am

Yes, he was a Buffalo Bill for part of his career, although his famous days were with the Cardinals......loved the leg whip.....according to Wikipedia (so it must be true), Dobler has had 9 knee replacement surgeries.....
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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by whiz wit » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:32 am

Spladle1989 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:04 am Yes, he was a Buffalo Bill for part of his career, although his famous days were with the Cardinals......loved the leg whip.....according to Wikipedia (so it must be true), Dobler has had 9 knee replacement surgeries.....
I think he was also known to sink his teeth into opposing players at opportune times.
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Re: Recruits-2023

Post by drd5748 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:59 am

>>> Coach Leeman, Turner, Strobel could develop wrestlers.

Best to add Santoro, who developed Hamlin from VT scratch (0-2 1st ncaa r-fr); also Cruz' stunning upsets of Gilman + finals; Rey went Rd12 to ncaa 3,1,2 and as asst trained personally with Bernholz, Esposito, Ayres, Doto, Vitale, Dufresne, Van Doren all A/A after tot of 2 hs 1sts. Add Kennedy, Hatchett, Wessell as surprise A/A; medals incl 1,1,2,2,2,2,3 among others. Nate Brown was also a surprise 2nd. Half of these as head; half as asst.
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