Moving Forward

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Moving Forward

Post by mookie » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:09 am

Lehigh has lots of potential but potential has a shelf life. They need to fix their problem weights (141, 149, 165, 174, 285) for any chance of competing with the big boys. Clearly, Brignola needs to go full-time at 149 and Garcia at 285.

I'd also pull Reinsel's redshirt for 141 and have Lawrence & Burkhart cut to 165 and 174.

Otherwise, they're looking like a 3rd place EIWA team.


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Re: Moving Forward

Post by Mountain Hawk » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:32 am

Prediction: the posting of your point of view will be swiftly met with vitriol.

Other than that, your mythical team would still likely have a very tough time beating Cornell or Penn at EIWAs this yr though I’d give our present team a good fighting chance to beat Penn. I’d also argue that our present team would defeat your mythical team. These weight class wars are fought in the room and the lineup we have is the result. Achievable weights have been achieved at this point.
It’s early days in the season. Bunch of guys in this lineup to enjoy watching as fans. Don’t get too down in the mouth on some of our guys having just squared off with almost half of last yrs NCAA champs and prob a couple future ones as well. They ain’t #1 for nothing.
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Re: Moving Forward

Post by mookie » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:44 am

What post isn't met with vitriol? Your points are good but what team doesn't tweak their lineups up until the end?

As Coach Prime said Saturday after taking over at Colorado: "You either get elevated or you get terminated."
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Re: Moving Forward

Post by whiz wit » Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:41 am

I'd agree on 149 and 285. IV probably has a better chance of getting pins against mediocre opponents and getting pinned against very good opponents. So I'd say that overall Brignola has greater value.

As I wrote after the Ok State match, I don't think Taylor has what it takes. I'd go with Garcia when he's pretty much ready to wrestle.
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Re: Moving Forward

Post by Oracle » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:00 am

mookie's post has merit. However.....

149 is interesting. Did Max burn his RS for this year yet? If not, there is merit to saving it and letting MB4 wrestle through his challenges. D1 these days is a bear. With so few programs talent is sky high at the top 30 programs.

165 -- IMO Logan cannot make it there, nor should he have to if he is the best 174 we have. Why? So fans can maximize *their* feelings of what's best? What about the guy who won his starting spot fair and square? Meyer is our best option but maybe he needs a kick in the a$$ and sit out a dual or two to think about how he approaches his bouts?
174 -- if Burkhart can beat out Logan, then fine. If not, Logan starts. Pretty simple. Fans may not like guys not winning enough but IMO the solution is not to penalize the best guy at the weight...unless the next guy up can win more.
285- Taylor is a work in progress. Silly to pull the plug on him so soon into his career. Or was him winning the Okla U dual already forgotten? I favor Garcia, but like I said, he has to win the spot, not be installed to mollify the fan base.

Reinsel should preserve his RS, Hines is the much better option. Does this qualify as vitriol?
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Re: Moving Forward

Post by mookie » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:11 am

I've got my eyes on you. You're on my list.
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Re: Moving Forward

Post by Oracle » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:17 am

mookie is funny, if nothing else. :)
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Re: Moving Forward

Post by Richb-3 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:28 am

Since LU does not come up with phony injuries for redshirting purposes Max has likely burnt his Redshirt. A shame since I think MBIV and he will both be needed next year.

I assume Thayne can not make 165 and not beat Jake.
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Re: Moving Forward

Post by Mountain Hawk » Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:29 pm

Oracle wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:00 am Does this qualify as vitriol?
by present board standards it was more of a sloppy wet kiss
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Re: Moving Forward

Post by drd5748 » Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:05 pm

No vitriol here .... as long as fans remember "they need to fix it" means the coaches & athletes.
Anonymous gossip sure won't change the lineup.
p.s. the rules may be confusing but how can Max burn his r/s year by wrestling 2 bouts in Nov? The rule has changed but competing in 30% of the season's dates is the cut-off (no-go), I think (no,, we wouldn't fake an inj but how can the more liberal rules demand an injury now?)
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