Resting vs Recovery

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Resting vs Recovery

Post by Oracle » Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:11 am

If a guy is injured and needs to recover, then that's up to the coaching staff. If a guy is being rested dues to weight issues or whatever, while it is still up to the coaching staff, it begs the question: is it right?

Time off when not injured is tricky. Everyone and their brother is charging to the finish line, wrestling hard and getting mentally tough. Anyone not in that head space runs the risk of bring rusty when they return.

IMO< that's why mookie says "take off the bubble wrap" -- a valid point even if you disagree.

IMO, Stanich should wrestle Bucknell, Princeton 8 days later, and Arizona State 7 days after that. Or if they think 2 weeks in between EIWAs and NCAAS is the plan, then wrestle Bucknell, skip Princeton and wrestle Arizona State. That would be every other week through the NCAAs.


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Re: Resting vs Recovery

Post by legger » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:02 am

**** Agree. Given Stanich has a hard cut to make 125. So are many other wrestlers across the country, regardless of the weight they are shooting for at the tournaments. Yes, we all would like to see him in the post season with him being healthy and fresh, as he has a legitimate opportunity to place high. However, keeping him out of duals just to avoid having to make weight too many times will defeat the purpose of having him be "his best" when it counts. If he makes weight and takes a loss or cannot make weight for a dual, then we know we have a problem, which may reappear come tournament time. Yes it is a month away, but it is better to find out now. We all remember what happened the last time the EIWAs were at Bucknell, with Jordan, not making weight for the 1st session.

We know he will never make 125 if not this year as he is probably 5'9'', (and while a big 125), he is probably still growing and will probably be even taller next year and weigh more. If he wants to try for 125 then Now Is The Time. Damn The Torpedoes, Full Speed Ahead!
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Re: Resting vs Recovery

Post by Richb-3 » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:34 am

If the every other week methodology works keep doing that. That would mean wrestle Bucknell and AzSU, but skip Princeton. The alternate is to just Wrestle Princeton.

If he does Wrestle Bucknell, there is then the point of should h wrestle AzSU, because it means his redshirt is pulled. Having Luke wrestle AzSU does mean he loses a year if he is injured in the dual or in the 2 weeks of practice between AzSU and EIWA. Unfortunately, that not would not be unprecedented. Pete Schuyler(if I remember correctly) was injured in the last 5 minutes of practice, possibly after others had already left, the night before EIWA.
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Re: Resting vs Recovery

Post by 1/2NELSON » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:43 am

Never has there been soo much DRAMA surrounding one individual wrestling for Lehigh! :o They pay the freight, and will control the PACE of the trotter, in his/their best interest. But how many times must I state unequivocally,..that TOMORROW is promised to no-one,..LIVE-FOR-TODAY! 8-)

Make-weight; kick-ass NOW,.. leaving tomorrow for the soothsayer... :?
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Re: Resting vs Recovery

Post by mookie » Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:26 pm

Jack Cuvo, Jack Spates, and Gene Mills cut to 118 lbs. from 150 lbs. Now all three would struggle to make 197 lbs.
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Re: Resting vs Recovery

Post by JAD77 » Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:25 pm

More curious about Crookham. We all know the story with Stanich by now - and we probably won't know whether or not he will wrestle in any of the last 3 duals until the day of.

However - has anyone heard anything about Ryan Crookham? A simple "just giving him the day off", or "he's a little under the weather" comment with Army would have sufficed, unless there is something else going on. Anyone heard? After all, he was listed on the official Lehigh site by the SID as being the probable starter against Army just 3 days before the match.
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Re: Resting vs Recovery

Post by jdalu75 » Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:01 pm

JAD77 wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:25 pm More curious about Crookham. We all know the story with Stanich by now - and we probably won't know whether or not he will wrestle in any of the last 3 duals until the day of.

However - has anyone heard anything about Ryan Crookham? A simple "just giving him the day off", or "he's a little under the weather" comment with Army would have sufficed, unless there is something else going on. Anyone heard? After all, he was listed on the official Lehigh site by the SID as being the probable starter against Army just 3 days before the match.
I think it was Lomangino on the broadcast who said it's a temporary thing, won't keep him out any time. From that I deduce either a skin problem or something like a toothache.
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Re: Resting vs Recovery

Post by 1/2NELSON » Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:57 pm

mookie wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:26 pm Jack Cuvo, Jack Spates, and Gene Mills cut to 118 lbs. from 150 lbs. Now all three would struggle to make 197 lbs.
TRUE,.. as I recall Mean Gene saying in a Wide-World-Of Sports interview, he would make his opponent PAY for the struggle he had to go thru to get down to weight. :o Recall seeing him in NCAA finals at Jadwin sportin' a noticeable POT-BELLY after re-hydrating, and putting away a few cheesesteaks! :lol:

Looking back I would venture to say he may have had something to do with the evolution of the TECH-FALL, as he had soo many high scoring matches, mostly resulting in the PIN that he was noted for! 8-)
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Re: Resting vs Recovery

Post by martinsilvestri » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:09 pm

The EIWA newsletter's Lehigh section says that Crookham has been out because he is "nursing an injury". Who knows where they are getting their information but it's the first explanation we've got.

Full section: No. 15 Lehigh

The Mountain Hawks won their sixth straight match, remaining unbeaten in the conference. Luke Stanich used his 5th date in a tech fall win at 125lbs. The next appearance he makes, he will lose his redshirt for the season. In the big upset of the dual, Jake Logan had a quality win at 165lbs over #12 Mulvaney.

At 141lbs, Malyke Hines won via tech fall over last year’s EIWA runner up at 149lbs, Dylan Chappell. Max Brignola also secured a tech fall at 157lbs. Joining the tech fall party were Michael Beard and Nathan Taylor. Taylor’s came against a ranked opponent in Crosby. Kelvin Griffin secured a decision at 149lbs. Lehigh was without Ryan Crookham once again. He’s nursing an injury. Expect him to be back before EIWAs.
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Re: Resting vs Recovery

Post by whiz wit » Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:57 am

Great that staff will tell an outside journalist why one of the stars of the team hasn't been wrestling but not tell those who support the team.
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