Seeding for 133

[lu_alum]

according to flo, a wrestler can be argued up or down if he is within three points of another by formula. That is very little. This seems to mean that a wrestler like Starrocci is going to be way out of place, which could cause problems for some poor guy if Starocci is healthy.

Starocci will get into the field but his seed will suffer due to the INJ DEFs in B1G and his limited schedule.

Head to Head (25%): should do well here, but he is 3-2 in his H2H bouts v the field, counting the two INJ DEF bouts at B1G.
Quality Wins (20%): three quality wins - listed below
Coaches' Rank (15%) = this will likely drop from #1 to anywhere between #2 and #4
Conference Finish (10%): DNP
Common Opponent (10%):
Win Pct (10%): 12-2 = 85.7%
RPI (10%): N/A

He's losing 21.43 points from the start: 10ea for Conf Finish & RPI; and 1.43 pts due to Win Pct

Also the subjective criteria offered don't help him - they may even hurt him. This goes against the "Coaches in a Room" theory.

• Bad Losses: none

• Outside top 30 Coaches or RPI: n/a

• Conference Champion: DNP

• Performance in last five matches (including conf tourney): 3-2

• Number of INJ DEF or MED FFT wins/losses: 1-2

• Best quality win: Rocco Welsh B1G 3rd

• Wrestler availability (Injured or medically unable to compete)

Here is his 2023-24 resume (quality bouts in bold italic):
Max Wilner (Arizona State) W-Med Forfeit
Luke Rada (Harvard) WBF
#14 Nick Incontrera (Penn) WTF 21-5
Thayne Lawrence (Lehigh) WBF
Eric Shindel (Hofstra) WTF 19-3
#7 Travis Wittlake (Oregon State) WTF 19-3
Robert Major (Indiana) WTF
Mason Stein (Maryland) WBF
#11 Rocco Welsh (Ohio State) W 4-2
#7 Patrick Kennedy (Iowa) WMD
#33 Bubba Wilson (Nebraska) WTF
Brody Evans (Edinboro) WTF
Andrew Sparks (Minnesota) LOSS INJ DEF
Brody Bauman (Purdue) LOSS INJ DEF

[lu_alum]

according to flo, a wrestler can be argued up or down if he is within three points of another by formula. That is very little. This seems to mean that a wrestler like Starrocci is going to be way out of place, which could cause problems for some poor guy if Starocci is healthy.

Are you sure that was for the NCAAs? That might have been about a conference event. EIWAs was that last year. This year expanded to 5 within those that were preallocated.

It was mentioned on a FloWrestling Radio Live show, with respect to EIWA seeding.

[whiz wit]

This is about Crookham, not Starocci. Where does he come out according to the applicable formula?

[lu_alum]

This is about Crookham, not Starocci. Where does he come out according to the applicable formula?

He should score higher than Fix in the following areas (Quality Wins, RPI, Coaches' Rank). I think they'll be equal for the other parameters (Conf Place, Win Pct).

[The Kid]

sorry, I'm an old guy and not so good with the tablet. A flo article in 2018 on the nationals seeding process states that coaches can move them a little.

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6 ... ocess-work

I was just mentioning Starocci as an example of why this might be important to do.

As for Crookham, you'd need a computer program to run the forumula.

[lu_alum]

sorry, I'm an old guy and not so good with the tablet. A flo article in 2018 on the nationals seeding process states that coaches can move them a little.

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6 ... ocess-work

I was just mentioning Starocci as an example of why this might be important to do.

As for Crookham, you'd need a computer program to run the forumula.

That article by Nomad is six years old. I provided links of the updated guidance earlier in the thread, which includes the subjective criteria that was updated in 2023.

[whiz wit]

This is about Crookham, not Starocci. Where does he come out according to the applicable formula?

He should score higher than Fix in the following areas (Quality Wins, RPI, Coaches' Rank). I think they'll be equal for the other parameters (Conf Place, Win Pct).

If he's 3-0-2 on the criteria vis-a-vis Fix, then he should clearly be #1, right?

[gimpeltf]

sorry, I'm an old guy and not so good with the tablet. A flo article in 2018 on the nationals seeding process states that coaches can move them a little.

I don't see where it says coaches. It says seeding committee- which I believe is the rules committee. There are a few coaches on the committee.

[The Kid]

Thanks Whiz, I'll look at that.

[LU61]

For what it’s worth, I’d be betting that Vito drops out of the 133 at the last minute, having assessed his injury recovery progress and weighed the value of the struggle for a NCAA title repeat with its further injury risk versus the potential value of an Olympic medal with its attendent recovery and preperation requirements.