NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

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Re: NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

Post by whiz wit » Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:05 am

Dad wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:32 pm Stanich’s part of the bracket is not an easy road for him
Davis could go out early. In his second bout he probably has Peterson, who he recently eked out a win over after a controversial favorable call, and then a hot Figueroa.


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Re: NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

Post by Richb-3 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:06 am

whiz wit wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:10 am
The Kid wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:42 am Vito and Ryan in the quarters? The panel is useless. This makes no sense based on performance and from a viewers perspective since this would be anticipated in final.
If Vito can go like he did in the EIWA final, it's asking a lot for Crookham to take 3 out of 3.
My exact thought. I watched the start of the BB game at BoU and the n announcers talked about how tough it is to beat a close to equal 3 times in a year.

Crookham walked onto the mat in Stllwater fix did not. That should count for something
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Re: NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

Post by JAD77 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:08 am

Spladle1989 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:28 pm How does Conigliaro from Harvard still get the 5 seed after losing 2 matches to a 14-12 Benny Baker at EIWA’s and placing 4th?

4th in his own conference tournament and it wasn’t a strong weight for the EIWA to begin with and he’s 5th seed at nationals??…..NCAA really needs to study their formulas…..
This is the one that jumped out at me. Starocci drops to #8 for 2 inj defaults, but Conigliaro is at #5 after 2 losses to a .500 wrestler??
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Re: NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

Post by JAD77 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:13 am

The Kid wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:29 pm So Crookham has to start touching, but he does not have to stay that way right? He usually keeps a distance so I assume he can do that with the blind guy
At the EIWA’s, as soon as there was separation between the wrestlers, ref would blow the whistle and reset them in the center. There had to be contact between the wrestlers at all time.
So as fast as I know, the answer to your question is No.
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Re: NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

Post by lu_alum » Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:49 am

JAD77 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:08 am
Spladle1989 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:28 pm How does Conigliaro from Harvard still get the 5 seed after losing 2 matches to a 14-12 Benny Baker at EIWA’s and placing 4th?

4th in his own conference tournament and it wasn’t a strong weight for the EIWA to begin with and he’s 5th seed at nationals??…..NCAA really needs to study their formulas…..
This is the one that jumped out at me. Starocci drops to #8 for 2 inj defaults, but Conigliaro is at #5 after 2 losses to a .500 wrestler??
Starocci is the #9. It’s a mathematical equation, for which he didn’t contribute 20% of the input parameters. It made perfect sense. The committee did the right thing and followed the established and agreed upon protocol- not they had any choice in the matter.
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Re: NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

Post by Spladle1989 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:12 am

lu_alum wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:49 am
JAD77 wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:08 am
Spladle1989 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:28 pm How does Conigliaro from Harvard still get the 5 seed after losing 2 matches to a 14-12 Benny Baker at EIWA’s and placing 4th?

4th in his own conference tournament and it wasn’t a strong weight for the EIWA to begin with and he’s 5th seed at nationals??…..NCAA really needs to study their formulas…..
This is the one that jumped out at me. Starocci drops to #8 for 2 inj defaults, but Conigliaro is at #5 after 2 losses to a .500 wrestler??
Starocci is the #9. It’s a mathematical equation, for which he didn’t contribute 20% of the input parameters. It made perfect sense. The committee did the right thing and followed the established and agreed upon protocol- not they had any choice in the matter.
Whatever the formula is, didn't work very well this year......on top of Baker beating Conigliaro twice, you also have to look at who Conigliaro wrestled in all his other matches, sure he only had 1 loss prior but he didn't exactly wrestle a daunting schedule.........

So forget Starocci, how does Conigliaro end up 5 seed? No conference championship, bad late season losses, wrestled a weak schedule all year and got majored in his only really tough match during the season (lost to Ruth 13-4)......I mean he's wrestlestat #20, there is a reason for that.......
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Re: NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

Post by Oracle » Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:00 am

No disrespect to Max Leete, but it's about the most bogus ruling I've ever seen. He's looking back to his coach for bench instructions; he sees good enough. Absurd to penalize his opponent. If he can't see a guy 6 feet away, maybe he shouldn't be wrestling. I don't blame Vito one bit for being frustrated -- he kept his composure pretty well. Leete is a badger -- best to put the wood to him early and take him out of the match. TD, tilt, E, TD, tilt, E TD --- 17-2 TF before you know it. That's what I'd do. Crookham has the tools to do it. Otherwise, our guy will expend a ton of energy he'll need in 2 rd.
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Re: NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

Post by The Kid » Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:14 am

Yeah that is bogus since it takes out a chunk of his opponents arsenal and forces them into an area he is highly specialized in. Great that a visually impaired guy is wrestling, but he should not be handed advantages.

I see everyone thinks the seeding committee is a failure. Fix skates into the finals because he did not wrestle - crazy. Seeding does help, but on the flip side, crazy things happen and suddenly someone is facing a top seed in the consolation bracket. All anyone can do is accept it and go on the mat looking to win every time.
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Re: NCAA Brackets Selection Show - 8 p.m.

Post by Spladle1989 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:52 pm

Carter Bailey wrestled Leete last year and majored him 12-1 at EIWA's.........were they wrestling under these rules then? I don't remember the match......
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